I already gave you my take on the CLOVERS trial:
but I promised that I would get Nate Shapiro, the lead author, on the show to discuss further. Well that is what you are getting today.
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I know the 30cc/kg was amended now, but next time this happens, could one of the medical organizations just bring a lawsuit forward?
Excellent stuff as usual, Scott. It was very cool to get some insights from Nate Shapiro and to get more into the weeds of CLOVERS. I have some comments I would like to make on this: 1) Mandate – no, Guidance – yes: I am almost uniformly opposed to governmental mandates in medicine, and this would include the current 30 mL/kg requirement. These mandates, in general, tend to put too much focus on the wrong aspects (financial) of care and doesn’t do enough to consider the collateral impacts on non-cases, for example. However, I maintain that the SSC guidance on fluids… Read more »