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EMCrit Podcast 11 – Delirium Tremens

by emcrit on September 29, 2009

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The management of severe ETOH withdrawal and Delirium Tremens:

1. Consider alternative diagnoses

Here is my DT protocol

2. Start treatment with diazepam

3. If you reach 200 mg, switch to phenobarb or intubate and give propofol

4. Your goal is to get your patient sleepy, but arousable with a HR<120

The citation for the CCM article is (Crit Care Med 2007;35:724)

I also discuss a listener email regarding succinylcholine and whether it causes increased oxygen consumption.

In short: Roc Rocks and Sux Sucks! (that one is for you Reub)

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reuben September 30, 2009 at 01:21

roc on.

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gregor January 11, 2010 at 16:59

Hey!
Whats Your take on haloperidol for Delirium in general and DT specifically?
Our Internists like Haloperidol + clometiazol (Distraneurin®)

THX & keep up the GREAT work! Gregor, Slovenia

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emcrit January 11, 2010 at 17:19

For delerium, it’s great!
for DTs it is deadly b/c it masks the symptoms without treating the cause. Of course, no true evidence for any of this. Dr. Goldfrank may say that with the management he has outlined, his hospitals mortality rates went from very high to virtually nil for this disease. Do with that what you will.

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Matthew Pirotte March 6, 2010 at 23:42

Scott,

I like the valium idea in principle but isn’t that selecting a therapy on the assumption that your admitting services don’t know how to manage DTs? I guess my concern would be that we shouldn’t necessarily be giving one med over the other because we are hoping to prevent a mistake we don’t know will happen.

Are there any other disease processes we approach like this?

MJP

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emcrit March 10, 2010 at 16:25

Matt-
It is a valid point. However, even if you eliminate that consideration, diazepam is still the ideal agent b/c it lets you see it’s full effects in ~5 minutes after dosing. We have had stacking dose problems with lorazepam and of course midazolam is too short acting unless you start a drip.

scott

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